George Orwell please pick up the white courtesy phone…

16 Jun
H/T TOTUS

H/T TOTUS

ABC Obama
Right Wing News

So, money is going to be taken out of the taxpayers’ pockets to allow Obama to have a partial takeover of a news network. Stalin would be proud.
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ABC: The All Barack Channel
Michelle Malkin

Sharpen your pencils, boys and girls, and look spiffy when Dear Leader comes to greet you.
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ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President’s Health Care Plan
FoxNews.com

ABC News will host an hour-long special on health care reform in the U.S. next Wednesday from the White House East Room — a move that ABC is defending but critics are calling a surrender to the Obama administration’s effort to control the debate.
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Top 10 new shows in ABC’s upcoming fall lineup
Ada County Conservative Examiner

And the number 1 new show on ABC’s fall TV lineup?
1. 24/7: Follow every move President Obama and his administration make in real time (complete with ticking digital clock!) to undo all of the evil America has caused in the world for the last 233 years, fix the mess that was caused exclusively by presidential predecessor Dick Cheney and his puppet George W. Bush, come up with new and exciting ways to tax and spend our way to prosperity and growth, and suck up to terrorists.  No waterboarding or stooping to Jack Bauer’s level required.
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6 Responses to “George Orwell please pick up the white courtesy phone…”

  1. Saywhatusay June 16, 2009 at 8:24 pm #

    people really grow up because u r rich and have healthcare and insurance and yes even food u think that goverment shouldn’t help those who can’t? so anyone who can’t afford the basics should pretty much die? sounds like the land of the free to me. yes goverment intervention is fraught with pitfalls and loopholes thats the way its been for hundreds of years now. but all i can say is at least this man is trying to do something about it. I am a firm beleiver in do something even if its wrong, thats the only way to get it right. and Fox news wasn’t in Carl Roves pocket? Its news just because it isn’t leaned the way you want u will whine. Shame on you 20 percent of the population in this country control 80 percent of the wealth. The rich help the rich and forget everyone else? Is that what you really are saying?

  2. Michael June 16, 2009 at 9:02 pm #

    Yes, I have health care for my family. And I work very hard to pay for it. But it’s not a right.

    You need to get your facts, as well as your grammar skills in order. No one in this country who really needs it goes without health care. And the top 20 percent, actually the top 10, pay the majority of the taxes in this country.

    But look at how socialized medicine (which is what this is) DOES NOT WORK in places like Britain and Canada. Do some reading.

    And, by the way, it’s Karl. Not Carl.

  3. Kyle June 17, 2009 at 1:05 pm #

    My heart sinks when I hear the statement “No one in this country who really needs it goes without health care” used to oppose universal health care. I wish that were true, but I personally know people who are in desperate need of health care they cannot afford. Just saying they do not exist does not make it so.

    As for socialized medicine in Canada and Europe, I have several friends from those countries and who have lived in those countries and they will tell you that the system works well. Of course there are flaws in every man made system, but our system serves some of the population and nearly ignores there rest.

    For telling people to get their facts straight, your post is curiously absent of any facts.

  4. Michael June 17, 2009 at 7:32 pm #

    Kyle, you’re right. That was a careless statement. It would be more accurate, and verifiable to say that the number of “uninsured” in this country is grossly over-exaggerated and that the availability of free or low cost health care is grossly under reported. Still, as you say there are flaws in every man made system and, yes, there are those who fall through those safety nets. No one is saying the health care system doesn’t need reform.

    I understand your fondness for your friends in other countries and their socialism. But for each of them I could provide multiple examples of folks telling us how socialism, socialized medicine in particular doesn’t work.

    But I’d have to ask, when the the European system become our American ideal? If you read your history books, we fought a war to get away from that. And in the last century we went to war twice to pull their socialism-lovin’ fannies out of the fire.

    As for getting the facts straight, let’s do.

    The Congressional budget office estimates that as many as 23 million people could lose their health insurance under the Kennedy version of Obamacare.

    http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/06/16/if-you-have-health-insurance-today-you-can-keep-it-or-not/

    Estimates for the cost of this plan are coming in at around $1 TRILLION over 10 years. But some estimates quadruple that to $4 TRILLION.

    http://www.hsinetwork.com/HSI_Report_on_Kennedy_06-13-2009.pdf

    Where’s that money coming from? We already can’t pay for the Porkulus bill which, in spite of the promises, has yet to stimulate anything. It was supposed to hold unemployment at 8%, yet the President admitted this week that he expects unemployment to go over 10%. Oops.

    It has been proven that it is mathematically impossible to pay back the Porkulus bill in the time promised. How are we going to pay for another $4 Trillion in a plan destined to fail?

    The President has already admitted that we’re out of money. Obamacare may be the best thing to come along since the invention of ice cream (you’re not surprised to find out I don’t believe that). But we can’t pay for it.

  5. Kyle June 19, 2009 at 10:10 am #

    I agree that we should not seek to simply copy the European models of health care. But at what point did our egos become so big that we cannot see what works elsewhere and try to apply it here. The USA pays more per capita for health care than any other country in the world, but by almost all measures we have a mediocre system compared to other industrialized countries.

    It is somewhat laughable that you have such a disdain for the governments of Europe as they are more similar to the USA than any other countries in the world.

  6. Michael June 19, 2009 at 9:01 pm #

    What works elsewhere Kyle? Just exactly how is it working when women with breast cancer in Britain can’t get the drugs they need? When Europeans have to “tip” (as in bribe) their doctors to move up on the surgery schedule? Where I, as a cancer survivor, would have a 20% less chance of survival in Europe? That’s your definition of working?

    In this discussion, and the Porkulus discussions prior, you’ve never been able to answer my questions of how much is too much? And just how are we going to pay for this? The money is going to run out. Right now the proposal in Congress is going to cost approximately $62,000 for every person in the United States. That’s one heckuva deductible.

    The fact is, we can’t afford it. And when the money runs out that’s going to lead to rationing. In fact provisions to limit certain types of care are already in the plan.

    As for disdain for the European governments, once again you misread between the lines. I’ve merely said that their systems of socialism and in particular socialist medicine just aren’t working. I’m sure there are many wonderful places to live in Europe. But it’s naive to equate the lifestyles, and the government.

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