Joe Wilson: Rude? Yes. But was he wrong?

10 Sep

scaredoftea1I already told you.  I didn’t watch the speech. 

My reason was not as good as DJ’s, but still.  I didn’t tune in.

I did, however, quickly pick up on the Facebook and Twitter posts discussing the highlight, or you may say lowlight, of the evening when Representative Joe Wilson of South Carolina yelled out “You lie!”

Following the speech, Wilson quickly apologized for his outburst.  That included a call to the White House.  We’ll note he didn’t apologize for what he said (more on that in a minute), but for how he said it.

Here’s my favorite tweet:

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Joe Wilson: sorry if you were offended when I called the President a liar.
Moe Lane, RedState

Notice that he didn’t say anything about a lack of accuracy – then again, as Legal Insurrection notes, this would be because Joe Wilson was being accurate when he called the President a liar: HR 3200 covers illegal immigrants, and every attempt to make it explicit that it wouldn’t has been blocked by Congressional Democrats.

Wilson was right to apologize for the outburst.  This is, after all, the United States Congress, not the House of Commons were that type of behavior is more, well, common. 

This would never happen in the United States, unless of course the President was George Bush giving his 2005 State of the Union address:

 

H/T Michelle Malkin: Unruly moment, manufactured outrage

But of course, that was back when political dissent waspatriotic.”

Now, back to President Obama’s speech.

I didn’t watch.  But J.R. Hoeft did and gives a Point-by-point on the president’s speech at Bearing Drift.
The president goes onto say that the plan will, indeed, cost nearly $1 Trillion, but that it can be paid for by savings from Medicare. He’s hoping that slowing the growth in health care costs by 0.1% that the deficit can be reduced by $4 trillion “over the long term”. I’m wondering what that “long term” is.

The Associated Press also did some fact checking:  The AP Factcheck via National Review Online

So says Bill at The Patriot Room:  By my count, they fact-check 7 of his statements last night and find that he was lying or obfuscating on 5 of them, which means he was telling the truth 28% of the time.

I’m not math expert, but I believe that gives Joe Wilson about a 72% chance of being right.  Rude or not.

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8 Responses to “Joe Wilson: Rude? Yes. But was he wrong?”

  1. Paul September 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm #

    South Carolina has a long list of dignitaries that includes Lauren Caitlin Upton (Miss Teen USA 2007 pageant contestant), Board of Education Chair, Kristin Maguire, Governor (and avid Appalachian hiker), Mark Sanford and now Joe “the hater not a debater” Wilson or the “screamer not the dreamer” as others have dubbed him. I did enjoy him cut and running through his apology, which only goes to show that he stands for nothing. He is just another good old boy where in the morning these married men preach to you that there should be prayer in our schools and in the evening they are on their cell phones setting up a date with their other women on the side, hypocrisy has been bred in. I am not surprised that he felt compel to yell like he was at some Friday night game. So long Joey, you too will be seeing the unemployment lines.

  2. Chris September 11, 2009 at 8:09 am #

    Joe, you ROCK! THANKS for speaking up for ALL Americans!

  3. windyw September 11, 2009 at 8:50 am #

    Now it’s Joe Wilson’s day in the sun being the Left’s Target-Of-The-Week. Distraction came just in time to keep the eye off of more of ACORN’s subversive activities.

  4. Audrey September 11, 2009 at 10:49 am #

    Hey Joe why on earth did you apologize? You said publicly what we were all screaming at or tv’s. The truth is though he’s just going to push through legislation that will pave the way for citizenship for illegals….Keep it up but no apologies next time!

  5. Rochelle September 11, 2009 at 10:54 am #

    I watched the speech and it WAS a big line of bull! I’m tired of this administration thinking that the common American’s are stupid and believe everything they try and slide by! I believe that the statement that Joe Wilson made was indeed true although it most likely should not have been made during the address. Many of us were happy to see somebody who had the guts to stand up and say what was in their heart passionately! I say Go Joe I hope he gets re-elected in 2010!

  6. sylvia September 11, 2009 at 11:21 am #

    SOME Republicans may not AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT, BUT SOME HAVE ENOUGH CLASS TO SAY MR WILSON WAS WRONG!!!!!!!! WILSON WAS WRONG..I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO IF I DIDN’T AGREE WITH MY PARENTS, I COULD ‘THINK’ ANYTHING I WISHED, BUT I KNEW TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT!!!! WILSON MAY DISAGREE, NO ONE DENIES HIM THAT, BUT TO DISRESPECT THE PRESIDENT AS HE DID, PUTS HIM IN THE SAME CATAGORY AT THE IRAQI WHO THREW A SHOE AT PRESIDENT BUSH! THE MAN WASN’T AN AMERICAN OR A POLITICIAN, SO IT SAID A LOT FOR THE CLASS OF MR. STUPID WILSON. THIS PRESIDENT IS WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH HARDCORE OPPOSITION FROM PEOPLE LIKE STUPID JOE WILSON. PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOT AGAINST IDEAS FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THEY JUST DON’T SEEM TO HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER BUT OPPOSITION FOR THE UNCERTAINTIES! SURE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SUPPORT BY OTHER STUPID REPUBLICANS WITH NO CLASS…WHICH IS WHY THE PARTY IS GOING DOWN THE TUBES!!!!

  7. Michael September 11, 2009 at 11:07 pm #

    Sylvia,

    1) please don’t shout, we can hear you just fine

    2) Joe Wilson apologized for his outburst. That should be the end of THAT story

    3) however, article after article continues to point out, as our title indicates that, while Wilson was rude, he was not wrong

    4) Both the President and the majority in Congress have rejected time and again Republican amendments to the bill, Republican suggestions to make the bill a little more tolerable. They have been voted down, time and time again. The President himself has accused anyone in opposition to the bill of “bearing false witness.” He set the tone for this debate.

  8. Paul September 22, 2009 at 9:58 pm #

    Some call Joe Wilson a great statesman, and are even proud of his “Shout Out”, so lets see, he says, he was told by the Republican leadership to apologize (he did not realize the magnitude of his mistake), he then gives his weak “not for reals” apology, but then goes on to those “Commentator Talk Shows” and basically says he real was not wrong and plays the victim card and calls for people to send in for money to support him for re-election. Had he kept quiet after his apology, that might have been the end of it but now that people know he lied about the apology the story will continue, until he is out of a job and the funny thing is, he does not see it coming. This summer has been rough for his beleaguered political party. At least he did not end up on the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC). In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme religious right (people who love to push their beliefs on others while trying to take away the rights of those they just hate) and that’s who they need to extract from their party if they real want to win. Good Luck, because as they said in WACO, “We Ain’t Coming Out”. The birthers, the tea baggers, the screamers, and the deathers continued extreme minority presence will become tiresome to mainstream America, if it has not already done so.

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